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Traveller-digest     Friday, December 31 1999     Volume 1999 : Number 1612<BR>
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(R)1996. Traveller is a registered trademark of FarFuture Enterprises.<BR>
All rights reserved.<BR>
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The following topics are covered in this digest:<BR>
<BR>
Re: Colt<BR>
Re: OT Gunbunny notice<BR>
re: [none]<BR>
Re: Spacer Folklore<BR>
Re: Trav-like computer games<BR>
Re: Cellulite  (slighty long)<BR>
Re: Spacer Folklore<BR>
Re: OT Gunbunny notice<BR>
Happy New Year!<BR>
Megacorps<BR>
Re: OT Gunbunny notice<BR>
Re: Old laws/weird legal systems<BR>
Re: Megacorps<BR>
Re: Megacorps<BR>
Y2K<BR>
A/UX<BR>
Re: FW: Government Overkill<BR>
Re: Keyboard kills & misc <BR>
Re: Spacer Folklore<BR>
Grassy Knoll<BR>
Re: GURPS: trav ships and their power requirements<BR>
OT: Looking At 2000<BR>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:35:55 -0500<BR>
From: Kurt Feltenberger <kurt@blazenet.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Colt<BR>
<BR>
At 11:14 PM 12/30/1999 -0600, you wrote:<BR>
>I really almost hat saying this, but lets face it, Colt is a "Megacorp". As<BR>
>such they _can't_ care about us. Survival,  by any means. counts instead. I<BR>
>am a liberal who is in favor of Gun Control Laws and - I still own 2 hand<BR>
>guns and plan to buy more. This contradiction is, I believe, at the heart of<BR>
>America's insanity on this issue.<BR>
<BR>
Colt's Manufacturing a "Megacorp"???<BR>
<BR>
That almost killed a keyboard I was laughing so hard!<BR>
<BR>
They've lost most of the government contracts they used to have and only <BR>
have the M-4 contract because of some smoke and mirrors <BR>
legislation.  They've steadily lost market share over the years, and the <BR>
last time they ever were 'dominant' in the way a Megacorp would be was back <BR>
near the turn of the century.<BR>
<BR>
Lockheed-Martin, General Electric, United Defense, now those are megacorps.<BR>
<BR>
I won't even touch the gun control issue for fear of starting yet another <BR>
round on that issue.<BR>
<BR>
Kurt Feltenberger<BR>
<BR>
"To our Country! In her intercourse with foreign nations,<BR>
    may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong!"<BR>
      ~Stephen Decatur<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
mailto:kurt@blazenet.net<BR>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:37:33 -0500<BR>
From: Kurt Feltenberger <kurt@blazenet.net><BR>
Subject: Re: OT Gunbunny notice<BR>
<BR>
At 02:04 AM 12/31/1999 -0500, you wrote:<BR>
>In a message dated 12/30/99 2:26:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,<BR>
>redroach@flex.net writes:<BR>
><BR>
><< Colt no longer deals to the public, >><BR>
><BR>
>You can still buy 1911's and SAA Colt  model1873 Peacemaker's. These two<BR>
>handguns apparently still make them money..On the other hand, both of these<BR>
>weapons are available from other manufacturers, and are MUCH cheaper to<BR>
>boot...<BR>
<BR>
Cheaper and much higher quality in the case of the 1911 series.<BR>
<BR>
Ol' Sam Colt would be spinning in his grave if he knew what that Iraqi <BR>
weasel was doing with his company.<BR>
<BR>
Kurt Feltenberger<BR>
<BR>
"To our Country! In her intercourse with foreign nations,<BR>
    may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong!"<BR>
      ~Stephen Decatur<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
mailto:kurt@blazenet.net<BR>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 08:51:30 -0700 (MST)<BR>
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU><BR>
Subject: re: [none]<BR>
<BR>
On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Mark Watson wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, SD Mooney wrote:<BR>
> >At 19:10 -0500 23/12/99, "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net> wrote:<BR>
> >>There was a Linux project for mac emulation[1], but I haven't heard the<BR>
> >>penguins peep about it since 1997.<BR>
> ><BR>
> >Doesn't Apple have a MacOS emulator for UNIX called A/UX or something <BR>
> >like that?<BR>
> ><BR>
> >I won't mention Rhapsody either....<BR>
> ><BR>
> <BR>
> A/UX was Apple's UNIX implementation (or rather, impersonation), which was a<BR>
> native UNIX which could also call the stuff in the Apple ROMs. It got dropped<BR>
> in the early 90's in favour of AIX, which was in turn dropped shortly before<BR>
> Jobs came back on board.<BR>
<BR>
No, no a thousand times no!! A/UX was Apple's Unix implementation, IIRC it<BR>
was a BSD-ish variant. AIX is IBM's rather twisted sick and throughly<BR>
weird implemntation of something that pretends to be unix. Only that<BR>
FrankenUnix known as HP-UX comes close to AIX in weirdness.<BR>
<BR>
(You see, HP bought a little workstation company called Apollo. HP's<BR>
existing Unix was ATT based, Apollos was BSD based, and so they decided<BR>
"Hey, lets take the non-obvious course and _merge_ the two!"<BR>
Unfortunately, BSD and ATT  were quite different critters at the time,<BR>
meaning if you're trined in either major variant of Unix, you're never<BR>
_quite_ sure how things will work on a HP-UX box.)<BR>
<BR>
("You are in a twisty maze of different Unices, all slightly different..."<BR>
<BR>
Tha Mac emulator for Linux that was being referred to is, I believe,<BR>
SheepShaver, which allows _Macs_ running Linux or BeOS run Mac apps more<BR>
or less natively. <BR>
<BR>
Bruce Johnson<BR>
University of Arizona<BR>
College of Pharmacy<BR>
Information Technology Group<BR>
<BR>
Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:52:02 -0500<BR>
From: "Chris Seamans" <semo@pil.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Spacer Folklore<BR>
<BR>
From: Thom Harris <thomharr@mediaone.net><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> Loved them Chris! Give us more.....<BR>
<BR>
Thank you very much. I'll try to come up with some more.<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:55:07 -0500<BR>
From: "Thom Harris" <thomharr@mediaone.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Trav-like computer games<BR>
<BR>
Try the following URL's:<BR>
<BR>
http://7thdimension.w3.to<BR>
http://www.gangsters.org<BR>
http://www.prests.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm<BR>
<BR>
They have most of the "Elite" games there. They are available for DL with<BR>
the stipulation that it is for your personal use and the authors have given<BR>
their consent. Two authors in the case of ELITE.....<BR>
<BR>
I'M NOT MAKING ANY PROMISES AS TO QUALITY, USABILITY, FUN OR WHATEVER ELSE.<BR>
I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE PUBLIC DOMAIN; SHAREWARE; FREEWARE OR ANYTHING ELSE.<BR>
IF YOU AREN'T INTERESTED IN THEM THEN DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. IF YOU ARE, THEN<BR>
GO THERE AND READ THE DISCLAIMERS YOURSELF AND LEAVE ME OUT OF IT!!!!<BR>
<BR>
Thom Harris<BR>
<BR>
- ----- Original Message -----<BR>
From: "Kyle Schuant" <kyle3054@yahoo.com><BR>
To: <traveller@lists.imagiconline.com><BR>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 1:23 AM<BR>
Subject: Trav-like computer games<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> Hiya all:<BR>
><BR>
> I'm looking at installing some of the good old games<BR>
> on my pc. I'm looking for copies of Elite in<BR>
> particular, I liked the travelling and trading. The<BR>
> sequel, Privateer, is fun, too. Similar games don't<BR>
> seem to be stocked here in Australia: it's all shoot<BR>
> 'em ups and Command&Conquer clones.<BR>
><BR>
> =====<BR>
> KA Schuant<BR>
> member: Chef's Guild International, Sporting Shooter's Assoc, Amnesty Int,<BR>
Carlton Soccer Club<BR>
> Melbourne<BR>
> Australia<BR>
> "Duct tape is like the Force: it has a light side, a dark side, and it<BR>
binds the universe together"<BR>
> __________________________________________________<BR>
> Do You Yahoo!?<BR>
> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.<BR>
> http://messenger.yahoo.com<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:22:36 -0500<BR>
From: "Thom Harris" <thomharr@mediaone.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Cellulite  (slighty long)<BR>
<BR>
I have envisioned a TL12+ fresher that is activated by a code when you<BR>
enter, unique to the individual of course. It then analyzes all the matter<BR>
"deposited" and decides what is wrong with you (if anything), if you are<BR>
getting "large" or "small" and makes adjustments automagically in the food<BR>
dispenser to negate whatever effects you are showing. You can eat all you<BR>
want or as little as you want and the food will be adjusted accordingly to<BR>
not/contain things such as fat, vitamins, minerals, hormones, calories, etc.<BR>
<BR>
I also see electrical stimulus to keep a person fit and strong while they<BR>
sleep or rest. This could be incorporated into your bunk or there could be a<BR>
station on the ship where you go and climb into a pod or something similar<BR>
to receive this "exercise". We already have something like this today for<BR>
paralization victims (if you can afford it) and it seems to work a little<BR>
bit from what I've read. By TL12 it should work fine.<BR>
<BR>
Both of these operations could be running as part of the life support<BR>
functions on the ship's computer. I haven't developed this too far yet but I<BR>
do like it and am using it in a short story I'm working on for BITS. More to<BR>
come later.<BR>
<BR>
This is my answer as to why all the characters look like "Greek Gods". There<BR>
can even be settings for those cultures that like their specimens a little<BR>
larger/smaller (whatever is a pleasing appearance to them; i.e. the movie<BR>
Hawaii and the Queen of the Hawaiian people) without making them unhealthy.<BR>
<BR>
Thom Harris<BR>
<BR>
- ----- Original Message -----<BR>
From: "William F. Hostman" <aramis@gci.net><BR>
To: <traveller@mpgn.com><BR>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 7:01 AM<BR>
Subject: Cellulite<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
> >I will wait breathlessly for the first Traveller art to depict the<BR>
> >Intrepid Adventurers with potbellies and cellulite.<BR>
> ><BR>
> >Kenji<BR>
><BR>
> Um, Sorry, but you missed it. There are two rather portly dudes portaryed<BR>
> in The Traveller Book. Alexander Lascelles Jaimison is rather stout. And<BR>
> then there's the guy with the beard, who has what looks like a 10mm<BR>
> AutoSnub. Both humans. Both with noticeable belly bulges. Both Male, and<BR>
> probably both over 40.<BR>
><BR>
> William F. Hostman  |  "Smith & Wesson: THe original Point and Click<BR>
> interface!"<BR>
> Aramis 0602 C55A364-C S kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge-<BR>
> 533<BR>
> Mailto:aramis@gci.net http://home.gci.net/~aramis mailto:wilh@alaska.com<BR>
> ICQ:14640742          AIM:AKAramis ARM 1.0: 3 R H++ P+<BR>
> IMTU 1.0: tc tm++ tn- t4-- tt+ to- tg-- ru+ ge 3i+ c+ jt-() au+ st- ls<BR>
> pi+() ta+ he+(-) kk+ as+ hi+ dr+ va++(--) so+ zh++ vi+ da++ sy- ge- pi+<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:53:03 -0600<BR>
From: "Bont" <felix@felixcafe.com><BR>
Subject: Re: Spacer Folklore<BR>
<BR>
These were great!  <BR>
<BR>
What we need is a "101 Folklore Tales"<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
- - - -<BR>
FELIX (Thomas L Bont)<BR>
<BR>
- - Encrypt your messages!<BR>
  That way only the government knows what you wrote!<BR>
<BR>
- - It is truly the wise man that knows what he doesn't!<BR>
<BR>
- - With your shield or on it ... (Old Spartan Blessing)<BR>
<BR>
- - Fidelitas super omnia, honore excepto<BR>
<BR>
- - Help Stop Forest Fires.  Outlaw Matches.<BR>
<BR>
Be sure to visit The FELIX Cafe at<BR>
     http://www.felixcafe.com/<BR>
<BR>
- - - -<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:07:33 EST<BR>
From: Sethkimmel@aol.com<BR>
Subject: Re: OT Gunbunny notice<BR>
<BR>
In a message dated 12/31/99 7:41:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, <BR>
kurt@blazenet.net writes:<BR>
<BR>
<< Cheaper and much higher quality in the case of the 1911 series.<BR>
 <BR>
 Ol' Sam Colt would be spinning in his grave if he knew what that Iraqi <BR>
 weasel was doing with his company. >><BR>
<BR>
I agree...:-(. I thought the weasel was a Syrian Jew though (much to my <BR>
embarrasement...). I still think the gun banning a*****e (and why someone who <BR>
hates guns would buy Colt escapes me) will not kill HK US civilian sales (if <BR>
the HK buyout goes through) if it can be shown to him to be PROFITABLE. Colt <BR>
dropped seven lines of handguns because the sales were WAY down, and were'nt <BR>
making money (in the case of the Python, Diamondback, and Detective Special <BR>
it's a great pity...). Look at Smith and Wesson. Despite being owned by a <BR>
British company (or perhaps BECAUSE of it...), they still sell heavily in the <BR>
US civilian market, as they make money on it. They even have a deal going to <BR>
sell the new Walther pistol (which I test fired in .40 cal. - GREAT GUN). The <BR>
problem is that the companies are seeing the Tobacco nightmare, and are <BR>
running scared...BTW; happy new year!<BR>
<BR>
Seth<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:09:32 EST<BR>
From: Sethkimmel@aol.com<BR>
Subject: Happy New Year!<BR>
<BR>
Happy new year to all on the TML!!!<BR>
<BR>
 Has anybody heard any Y2K problems yet, or can I start laughing at the <BR>
doomsayers? :-)<BR>
<BR>
Seth<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:21:53 -0500<BR>
From: "Josh W. Spencer" <macmanjws@earthlink.net><BR>
Subject: Megacorps<BR>
<BR>
On 12/31/1999 10:35, Kurt Feltenberger wrote:<BR>
> <BR>
> Colt's Manufacturing a "Megacorp"???<BR>
> <BR>
> That almost killed a keyboard I was laughing so hard!<BR>
I agree with Kurt's sentiment, but I didn't bust a keyboard about it.<BR>
> <BR>
> They've lost most of the government contracts they used to have and only<BR>
> have the M-4 contract because of some smoke and mirrors<BR>
> legislation.  They've steadily lost market share over the years, and the<BR>
> last time they ever were 'dominant' in the way a Megacorp would be was back<BR>
> near the turn of the century.<BR>
> <BR>
> Lockheed-Martin, General Electric, United Defense, now those are megacorps.<BR>
> <BR>
United Defense? Perhaps you mean United Technologies. That's definitely a<BR>
megacorp. So would General Motors and Ford. What about ExxonMobil (these<BR>
corporate giants JUST merged), BP/Amoco?<BR>
<BR>
Any input from the European and Asian sectors?<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
Josh W. Spencer (macmanjws@earthlink.net)<BR>
Ypsilanti, Michigan, USA<BR>
http://home.earthlink.net/~macmanjws<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:23:48 -0500<BR>
From: "Josh W. Spencer" <macmanjws@earthlink.net><BR>
Subject: Re: OT Gunbunny notice<BR>
<BR>
On 12/31/1999 12:07, Sethkimmel@aol.com wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> In a message dated 12/31/99 7:41:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,<BR>
> kurt@blazenet.net writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> << Cheaper and much higher quality in the case of the 1911 series.<BR>
> <BR>
> Ol' Sam Colt would be spinning in his grave if he knew what that Iraqi<BR>
> weasel was doing with his company. >><BR>
> <BR>
> I agree...:-(. I thought the weasel was a Syrian Jew though (much to my<BR>
> embarrasement...). I still think the gun banning a*****e (and why someone who<BR>
> hates guns would buy Colt escapes me) will not kill HK US civilian sales (if<BR>
> the HK buyout goes through) if it can be shown to him to be PROFITABLE. Colt<BR>
> dropped seven lines of handguns because the sales were WAY down, and were'nt<BR>
> making money (in the case of the Python, Diamondback, and Detective Special<BR>
> it's a great pity...). Look at Smith and Wesson. Despite being owned by a<BR>
> British company (or perhaps BECAUSE of it...), they still sell heavily in the<BR>
> US civilian market, as they make money on it. They even have a deal going to<BR>
> sell the new Walther pistol (which I test fired in .40 cal. - GREAT GUN). The<BR>
> problem is that the companies are seeing the Tobacco nightmare, and are<BR>
> running scared...BTW; happy new year!<BR>
> <BR>
> Seth<BR>
> <BR>
OK, who's this IRAQI guy who supposedly owns Colt? Please fill us in on this<BR>
one and how he got away with buying the company.<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
Josh W. Spencer (macmanjws@earthlink.net)<BR>
Ypsilanti, Michigan, USA<BR>
http://home.earthlink.net/~macmanjws<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:27:57 -0500 (EST)<BR>
From: Michael Houghton <herveus@Radix.Net><BR>
Subject: Re: Old laws/weird legal systems<BR>
<BR>
Howdy!<BR>
<BR>
Leonard wrote:<BR>
> A few more waysd to keep your players on their toes:<BR>
> <BR>
> Given the history of the Imperium, there are going to be laws that are<BR>
> multiple *thousands* of years old, that have never been explicitly<BR>
> repealed, but aren't enforced anymore either. If you are *careful* you<BR>
> can take advantage of this. But it could backfire.<BR>
> <BR>
> A couple of real world examples:<BR>
> <BR>
> Back in Victorian times, a man who was likely going to lose a civil<BR>
> suit noted that trial by combat was technically still legal. So he sent<BR>
> proper notification to the court and the other party in the suit. <BR>
> <BR>
> He showed up, in armor, at the appointed place and time and<BR>
> (apparently) so did an officer of the court. Since the other party had<BR>
> declined the challenge, he won the case!<BR>
> <BR>
> Parliment eliminated this "loophole" next session. <BR>
> <BR>
[snip]<BR>
<BR>
A few years ago (probably areound 10-15 by now), trial by combat was<BR>
still technically legal in Maryland. A friend of mine was representing<BR>
the defendant in a criminal case. Said friend is also in the SCA.<BR>
It was agreed to have a trial by combat; the details were all set.<BR>
Unfortunately, the DA wussed out. Apparently, the offense was a minro<BR>
one and the judge had a great sense of humor (Vincent Femia, now retired).<BR>
*sigh* <BR>
<BR>
I think the state legislature may have taken the hint and "fixed" the<BR>
law.<BR>
<BR>
yours,<BR>
Michael<BR>
- -- <BR>
Michael and MJ Houghton   | Herveus d'Ormonde and Megan O'Donnelly<BR>
herveus@radix.net         | White Wolf and the Phoenix<BR>
Bowie, MD, USA            | Tablet and Inkle bands, and other stuff<BR>
                          | http://www.radix.net/~herveus/<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:40:26 -0600<BR>
From: Black ICE <wombat@premier.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Megacorps<BR>
<BR>
"Josh W. Spencer" wrote:<BR>
> <BR>
> On 12/31/1999 10:35, Kurt Feltenberger wrote:<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Colt's Manufacturing a "Megacorp"???<BR>
> ><BR>
> > That almost killed a keyboard I was laughing so hard!<BR>
> I agree with Kurt's sentiment, but I didn't bust a keyboard about it.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > They've lost most of the government contracts they used to have and only<BR>
> > have the M-4 contract because of some smoke and mirrors<BR>
> > legislation.  They've steadily lost market share over the years, and the<BR>
> > last time they ever were 'dominant' in the way a Megacorp would be was back<BR>
> > near the turn of the century.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > Lockheed-Martin, General Electric, United Defense, now those are megacorps.<BR>
<BR>
Those puny, mom-and-pop operations?!?  _This_ is a true megacorp:<BR>
<BR>
http://www.microsith.com/<BR>
<BR>
<<snip>><BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
AuricTech Shipyards Journeyman Gearhead<BR>
"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)<BR>
Keeper of the TML Keyboard Casualty List<BR>
<BR>
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/9776<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:44:59 -0500<BR>
From: "Swordy \(Colin Michael\)" <swordworlder@clinic.net><BR>
Subject: Re: Megacorps<BR>
<BR>
Fuji.  They make everything from cameras and film (fujifilm) to cars<BR>
(Subaru) to ships (Fuji heavy ind.)<BR>
<BR>
- ----- Original Message -----<BR>
From: "Josh W. Spencer" <macmanjws@earthlink.net><BR>
> Any input from the European and Asian sectors?<BR>
<BR>
------------------------------<BR>
<BR>
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 04:59:45 +1100<BR>
From: "Jim & Peta Lawrie" <jimpeta@primus.com.au><BR>
Subject: Y2K<BR>
<BR>
    Quick! Into the bunker!<BR>
    Here in Australia all the Y2K warnings have come true! We are knee deep<BR>
in penguins! The lights have gone out! There's havoc and mayhem, rioting in<BR>
the streets! Run, while you have time! Oh, how I wish I had put aside a<BR>
bunch of food, guns and guns! Then all this would happen to someone else,<BR>
run while you have tim . . . .<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
    Sorry. Couldn't resist it.<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:31:50 +0000<BR>
From: Mark Watson <markw@antares.demon.co.uk><BR>
Subject: A/UX<BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Bruce Johnson wrote:<BR>
>On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Mark Watson wrote:<BR>
><BR>
>> <BR>
>> A/UX was Apple's UNIX implementation (or rather, impersonation), which was a<BR>
>> native UNIX which could also call the stuff in the Apple ROMs. It got dropped<BR>
>> in the early 90's in favour of AIX, which was in turn dropped shortly before<BR>
>> Jobs came back on board.<BR>
><BR>
>No, no a thousand times no!! A/UX was Apple's Unix implementation, IIRC it<BR>
>was a BSD-ish variant. AIX is IBM's rather twisted sick and throughly<BR>
>weird implemntation of something that pretends to be unix. Only that<BR>
>FrankenUnix known as HP-UX comes close to AIX in weirdness.<BR>
><BR>
Ummm, I'm not sure where the thousand times no comes from. Apple stopped<BR>
selling A/UX and started selling their own RS/6000 implementations as servers.<BR>
There were a bunch of others doing similar - Hitachi, Motorola, Bull. Since the<BR>
hardware implementations (despite both the Mac and the RS using PowerPC) were<BR>
incompatible they had to run AIX as the OS. The Apple boxes were actually<BR>
pretty nice, but Apple had neglected to set up a channel capable of selling<BR>
them.<BR>
<BR>
As for your opinion of AIX and for that matter HP/UX ... AIX is OK. I'd prefer<BR>
it to HP/UX, sit it alongside Solaris and prefer Linux to all of them (though<BR>
for commercial use Linux still has a couple of things to sort out). I'm amazed<BR>
that these statements about AIX still abound (probably from people who haven't<BR>
looked at it since 3.1). <BR>
<BR>
DomainOS was weird though, I'll grant you that.<BR>
<BR>
- -- <BR>
Mark Watson, markw@antares.demon.co.uk<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:05:16 -0500<BR>
From: "David L. Pulver" <dlpulver@kos.net><BR>
Subject: Re: FW: Government Overkill<BR>
<BR>
At 10:31 AM 12/31/99 -0500, you wrote:<BR>
>Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 08:27:24 -0700 (MST)<BR>
>From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU><BR>
>Subject: Re: FW: Goverment Overkill<BR>
><BR>
>On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Walter G. Smith wrote:<BR>
><BR>
>> Something vaguely on-topic from a friend:<BR>
>> <BR>
>> Your tax dollars at work.<BR>
>> ____________________________________________________________<BR>
>> <BR>
>> During the heat of the space race in the 1960's, the U.S. <BR>
>> National Aeronautics and Space Administration decided it <BR>
>> needed a ball point pen to write in the zero gravity confines <BR>
>> of its space capsules. <BR>
>> <BR>
>> After considerable research and development, the Astronaut <BR>
>> Pen was developed at a cost of $1 million. <BR>
>> <BR>
>> The pen worked and also enjoyed some modest success as a <BR>
>> novelty item back here on Earth. <BR>
>> <BR>
>> The Soviet Union, faced with the same problem of writing in <BR>
>> zero gravity, used a pencil. <BR>
><BR>
>Yikes!  Pencil leads break. Graphite pencil leads are conductors. Tiny<BR>
>little bits of conductor floating about are BAAAAAD!<BR>
><BR>
>Bruce Johnson<BR>
<BR>
Also, pencil leads smear; the result is powdered graphite.  Powdered<BR>
graphite is flammable.  The shuttle flew with a pure oxygen environment...<BR>
<BR>
My NASA buff friend John Nowak also says that according to a National<BR>
Geographic article, the Soviets attempted to design space pens (and spent<BR>
the money on them) but failed.  They now buy pens from Fischer, who also<BR>
sells them to NASA ... at a slight loss, due to the terms of the early<BR>
agreement (they make up in profit by commercial sales).<BR>
<BR>
 _____________________________________________________________________<BR>
     David L. Pulver -- Senior Staff Writer and Assistant Line Editor,<BR>
		     Guardians Of Order Incorporated<BR>
 Big Eyes, Small Mouth * Sailor Moon * Dominion Tank Police * Tenchi Muyo! RPG<BR>
             dlpulver@kos.net  http://www.guardiansorder.on.ca<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:07:57 -0500 (EST)<BR>
From: Kenji Schwarz <schwarz@fas.harvard.edu><BR>
Subject: Re: Keyboard kills & misc <BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 Sethkimmel@aol.com wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> In a message dated 12/28/99 6:55:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, <BR>
> tiamat@tsoft.com writes:<BR>
> <BR>
> <<  would like to see some good looking men and I would like it if more than<BR>
>  one was black  >><BR>
> <BR>
> MT Rebellion Sourcebook has a black guy on the cover...:-)<BR>
<BR>
I suspect that's the one being referred to.<BR>
<BR>
Kenji<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:08:39 -0500 (EST)<BR>
From: Kenji Schwarz <schwarz@fas.harvard.edu><BR>
Subject: Re: Spacer Folklore<BR>
<BR>
This is great stuff; keep it coming!<BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Chris Seamans wrote:<BR>
<BR>
> Once again, I feel it is time to repent for my off-topic posts. I all too<BR>
> frequently use my voodoo folklorist powers for evil and point out that<BR>
> certain stories posted to the list are urban legends. I will now use the<BR>
> same voodoo folklorist powers for good and post some musugashimeku, or<BR>
> spacelore.<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:01:51 -0700<BR>
From: scharlto@ifsna.com<BR>
Subject: Grassy Knoll<BR>
<BR>
For several years in my Harn campaign, there was a marauding<BR>
beast near the PCs hometown of Thay.  It was a huge,<BR>
foul-smelling creature that attacked caravans, which was called<BR>
the Gassy Gnoll.<BR>
<BR>
It was not until the movie JFK came out that my players got the<BR>
horrid pun, and set out to kill the Gassy Gnoll once and for<BR>
all.  They did it too, after great tribuations, and won a goodly<BR>
pile of treasure and (most importantly) freeddom from a two-year<BR>
running pun.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
>Worst and most vicious of all are the big hyena-like critters<BR>
with plant<BR>
>like protusions growing out of their shoulder blades and<BR>
cranium...<BR>
><BR>
>yes...<BR>
><BR>
>the justfiably dreaded Grassy Gnoll...<BR>
<BR>
*splort!*  There goes another keyboard... Thanks, Kiri...<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Steven Charlton<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:10:31 -0800<BR>
From: Russell Bornschlegel <kaleja@estarcion.com><BR>
Subject: Re: GURPS: trav ships and their power requirements<BR>
<BR>
Eris wrote:<BR>
> There's underpowered and then there's *really* underpowered.  <g> I<BR>
> rate power requirements at three levels when I design ships.  First,<BR>
> there's the power requirement with *every* system at full power,<BR>
> ships sometimes carry a reactor this powerful.  Second, is the power<BR>
> requirement will all systems that would be running similtaniously<BR>
> (don't need power maneuver in jump space or jump drive/grid in<BR>
> normal space, CG/AG doesn't have to run at full power at all times,<BR>
> etc.), every ship should *exceed* this number. <BR>
<BR>
IMTU, you need to run the FTL drive for a while (about 1 High Guard<BR>
combat round) before you actually leave normal space. If you're <BR>
trying to jump out of a combat situation, it's nice to have power<BR>
for both the normal space drive and the FTL drive so you don't <BR>
become a newtonian target drone (and shortly thereafter, dead)<BR>
in the meantime.<BR>
<BR>
- - Russell B<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:15:48 -0600<BR>
From: Kenneth Bearden -- Walker Jane Productions <dreamer@brokersys.com><BR>
Subject: OT: Looking At 2000<BR>
<BR>
Looking at 2000<BR>
<BR>
You can listen to what you hear on TV and call it the New Millennium.<BR>
Or, you can count the years yourself and realize that the New Millennium<BR>
actually doesn't start until the year 2001--because Year 0 never<BR>
happened.<BR>
<BR>
You can move through New Year's Eve enjoying the grandest party you've<BR>
ever been to, or you can sit at home, alone, with Dick Clark, like it is<BR>
just another day, and have just as good a time.<BR>
<BR>
You can move into tomorrow with goals of loosing weight, working out,<BR>
stopping smoking, discovering your soul mate, finding a better job,<BR>
writing a novel, or even making a movie.  Or, you can go to work on<BR>
Monday with nothing more on you mind than what you had going to work on<BR>
Friday.<BR>
<BR>
The point is, there are as many ways to look at the New Year as there<BR>
are pairs of eyes around to look at it.  Find out what is most important<BR>
to you, and live that.<BR>
<BR>
Be that.<BR>
<BR>
I refer to a couple of cliches:  The way others perceive you is not as<BR>
important as the way you perceive yourself.  You just can't please<BR>
everyone, so please yourself.<BR>
<BR>
As 2000 approaches me here in Houston, Texas USA, I extend my warmest,<BR>
best wishes and hopes for the New Year to those who own my heart, my<BR>
family and closest friends, and to everyone reading this message.<BR>
<BR>
Your dreams will come true if you make them.  May your dreams come true<BR>
in 2000.<BR>
<BR>
Kenneth D. Bearden<BR>
Walker Jane Productions<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
I leave you this year with a note, copied below, found handwritten on<BR>
Mother Teresa's wall.  Her words inspire and touch me.<BR>
<BR>
============================<BR>
<BR>
People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered;<BR>
Forgive them anyway.<BR>
<BR>
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;<BR>
Be kind anyway.<BR>
<BR>
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true<BR>
enemies; Be successful anyway.<BR>
<BR>
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;<BR>
Be honest and frank anyway.<BR>
<BR>
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;<BR>
Build anyway.<BR>
<BR>
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;<BR>
Be happy anyway.<BR>
<BR>
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;<BR>
Do good anyway.<BR>
<BR>
Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;<BR>
Give the world the best you've got anyway.<BR>
<BR>
You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God;<BR>
It never was between you and them anyway.<BR>
<BR>
    Mother Teresa, I<BR>
<BR>
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